Vansh says:
August 6, 2020 at 4:47 am
This is the most absurd , snake oil recommendation i have ever heard .
Just read an amazon review of a reader , who has taken Dr. Paul Saladino’s personal consultation and now moved to a plant based diet , reaping good results finally . Amazon review is copy pasted below ::
Dharmatech
1.0 out of 5 stars Carnivore movement is still too young to make authoritative claims
Hey Paul!
I’ve been following you for a while and appreciate a lot of your information. Why the 1 star review?
I think it’s way too early in the carnivore era to make any authoritative claims. Your book makes some of these but a few are already out of date.
From page 243 of the kindle edition:
“What About Chicken, Turkey, and Other Birds? … all of these are totally fine to include on a carnivore diet”
However, your YouTube video from June 23rd is titled “Why chicken is killing you”. Your advice drastically and completely changed between February and June (4 months).
From page 233 of the kindle edition:
“Honey is another fructose-rich food that probably should not make up a significant proportion of any healthy diet. Evidence of tooth decay in avid honey eaters within certain African tribes and Pacific islanders stands as further testament of the potential dental downsides to over-consumption of sugar-rich food.”
Your video from June 17th is titled “Should You Be Brushing Your teeth With Honey?”. You also have videos on June 1st, 5th, 6th advocating experiments with honey.
On March 13th 2019 after a consultation with you, your email to me with personalized recommendations stated to take 1g of KCl (potassium choloride) daily. However, your book then states on page 233:
“I do not recommend oral supplementation of potassium, and have not found this to be helpful or necessary.”
I know that your advice on whether or not to grill meat has changed over time (you use to warn against it but on the Mark Bell podcast you said not to worry about it). Your advice on bone meal has also changed over time.
From page 249 of the kindle edition:
“Tier 5 is what I would consider to be the closest thing to an ideal version of the carnivore diet. It’s how I eat every day”
However, in you recent videos, you’ve explained that you’ve been “experimenting with carbs” honey and various vegetables.
The blurb on Amazon says “Dr. Saladino is the leading authority on the science and application of the carnivore diet”. In tour video from 2018 November 4th, you say “I’ve been doing this diet for about a month”. So as of the books printing, you’ve personally been doing this diet for a little over a year. I don’t think there’s anybody in this space who is an authority; it’s simply two new of a space. Even Dr Shawn Baker who really kicked things off when he was on the Joe Rogan podcast is much more conservative about the claims he makes regarding this diet.
If commit to your tier 5 diet as you describe in your book for 20 years or so and you enjoy the results and you’re still ready to promote them, I think then you can maybe say you’re an authority in the space.
You also make no mention some concerning issues that arise in the carnivore diet space. For example, the elephant in the room, testosterone and hormone level issues. Ben Greenfield, after experimenting with a carnivore diet, had higher than recommended SHBG and free testosterone at the low end of normal. In the video of your consultation with Karnivore Kurt on 2019 August 17th, you say “your free testosterone and total testosterone are pretty low. Your dihihydrotestosterone is really low too”. And these were his results after 7 months on a carnivore diet. At a later review, his SHBG was 103 (reference range 16-55). Dr Shawn Baker famously shared his blood work and his testosterone numbers were low. And finally, coming to your own bloodwork, on January 8th, 2019, your Instagram post shows that your free testosterone was was low and SHBG was high and that you had to take boron to resolve this. Is the next edition of your book going to recommend supplementing with 10mg of boron as you did to radially change your numbers? And the readers of your book who take your advice and don’t have time to follow your instagram; are they just not going to get that extra bit of information and thus end up with numbers like Greenfield, Kurt, Baker, and yourself?
I think it’s awesome that you’re experimenting in this field and others and is one of the reasons I follow you. I think a book like this however should come with a warning like “any and all of this advice is subject to change and become out of date”. These are still the early days of this diet. A meat only diet is proven to help with certain acute conditions. However, we don’t yet know the long term affects on a wide scale.
So what worked for me and what am I currently doing diet wise?
After two years of doing a mostly carnivore diet (with occasional cheats) I’m experimenting with a plant-based diet. My blood pressure (which was in the 140s-160s on carnivore) is in the 117 range. A chronic hip issue I’d had during carnivore is now gone. I can run faster than I used to. My heart palpitations (which were persistent on carnivore) are now gone. The advice you gave me to take electrolytes for the palpitations never really worked long term. Attaining a high potassium to sodium ratio with plant based foods did the trick for me.
What I have found is that different diets work well for different people at different times. At this point in my life, plants are working even better than meat. Meat and salt worked well to reset some things for a period in my life. But I’m so happy that I was eventually able to move beyond that limited diet. (Even Jordan and Mikhaila Peterson who you cite as inspiration in this book have expressed the desire to move beyond a carnivore only diet.) I do disagree with your stance that plant foods are as bad as you make them out to sound for all people.
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